80’s
Redux:
A Conversation with Ralph Gebbia
of The Mob NYHC
By Rachelle
Nones
wordsmith3@prodigy.net
Photos
Courtesy
Weathermaker
Music
More than
three decades have passed since The Mob
performed at Manhattan dives and
legendary clubs like CBGB’s. Today, the
New York hard-core (NYHC) band’s
original members are still performing
together and rockin’ back into
circulation with a new single “Back to
Queens.”
About a month
after their new single’s release date, I
checked in with Mob vocalist Ralph
Gebbia to discuss the band’s early years
and current projects. The Mob originated
in Jackson Heights, Queens, so I
wondered how growing up in Queens
influenced The Mob’s early development
as a band. I asked, “Why New York
hard-core?”
“The Ramones
were a big influence on us— coming from
our area and doing something that was so
extraordinarily different at the time.
We were young kids from Queens and we
were all friends and would go to shows
together. We would see things that were
a heavy influence on us. We knew what we
wanted to do based on what we weren’t
hearing and what we were going to see in
the local clubs and taking it back and
trying our own version.”
The Mob found
their niche when they latched onto a new
wave of punk rock that was beginning to
surface. Gebbia explained, “There was no
New York hard-core when we started.
There was punk rock. Punk rock was
moving in a more aggressive fashion and
we were part of that. It was happening
in California and in Washington, D.C.,
and we were the third phase of that. It
started happening in New York City and
we were developing our version of that
hard-core scene.”
When I asked
Gebbia to describe the moment when the
band realized they were part of a
significant new music trend, Gebbia
laughingly replied, ”When five people
showed up the first time!”
During a
December 8, 2011 interview with Diane
Kamikaze on WFMU, Gebbia spoke about how
the '80s New York hardcore punk bands
supported one another’s efforts. I
reminded Gebbia that he’d summed up the
mood as “New York United” and then asked
him about the motivation behind the
united front.
“The unity
had to come because there was no other
support for us…there was no record
labels, there was no radio, there was no
clubs or promoters who were supporting
what we were doing. That united front
came from us having to do everything on
our own. We put out our own records and
we put out other people’s records. The
unity portion came not as a revolt
against a single entity but to support
everything we tried to do because no one
else was supporting it. This was a
separate art form that was just in its
infancy “
The 1980s
were wild years in New York City. Many
bands didn’t emerge from that decade
intact so I asked Gebbia for the Mob’s
survival secret.
“You’re all
still alive and well and performing
together. What separated The Mob from
the bands that didn’t survive that
scene?”
“There’s only
one word I can use-- luck. We could have
easily had casualties. I have no answer
to that but we love it and we take
advantage of
it. We talk about it all the time. Being
that we were all friends from the same
neighborhood might have something to do
with it but I don’t know. We say, ‘We
have to do a show this year because we
don’t want one of us to die.’ That’s
what makes us fun today.”
The Mob has
certainly chosen a fun marketing
approach for its latest series of four
limited edition vinyl singles;
premiering with the release of “Back to
Queens.” With smokin’ hot cover art
created by New York tattoo artist Mr.
Den, all of the singles bear cover
designs intended to interact with one
another and form a singular design when
they are pieced together.
“What
inspired you to write “Back to Queens?”
“It comes
from my youth and getting back to basics
and the life cycle of making a complete
turn. All I want to do is get back to my
roots, relax and have fun again.
Everything else is so complicated.”
“If you had
to predict a major music trend what
would say is coming?”
“I’d like to
see them refine the craft of
musicianship but I don’t see that
coming. I’m really so disappointed in
mainstream music and the trends that
occur because there are artists out
there but the industry itself has really
faltered. What I see is it becoming a
totally independent network because of
the technology. What you see out there
that is being pushed at us by the media
is bland rethreads of old stuff but
there is so much unique stuff out there
that is being done individually just as
we did it in 1981 and 1982.”
“What do you
believe is behind the disappointing
trends in music that you’ve just
mentioned?”
“The kids are
sitting on their couches afraid to leave
the house and they’re playing their
games. There’s a lack of musicianship
and
creativity
and people willing to stand up for what
they’re really willing to do. I’m
finding that it’s a dead society.”
As depressing
as that sounds, Gebbia keeps the faith,
often visiting small local clubs to
check out new talent. He said that
Manhattan real estate is too expensive
to spawn another CBGB’s but believes
that places like Williamsburg, Brooklyn,
or Jersey City are filling the vacuum.
He’s amazed
at the number of shows taking place
lately and recently checked out a few
bands performing in New Jersey clubs. He
particularly enjoyed a recent
performance by the Jersey-based punk
rock band The Flops. Gebbia said, “I saw
them last weekend at this local dive.
They’re a band I’m really excited
about.”
There had
been some buzz about a self-made Mob
documentary so I asked Gebbia when fans
could expect to view it.
“We’re
putting together everything we can
possibly gather. We have pictures,
flyers and music that was never released
that we are putting in one place in a
documentary film on CD and DVD. It’s an
ongoing project but we are moving
forward with it.”
Before
signing off, Gebbia revealed a few
wishes on The Mob’s bucket list.
“I would love
to take The Mob around the world and go
to all of the places we never went
before. We never took it overseas but
we’ve had a lot of interest, especially
in the European countries. I’d love to
hit Europe as a whole…Spain…England.
We’re not dead yet. The bucket list is
something we’re always talking about.”
For more
details about The Mob NYHC visit:
http://www.facebook.com/themob101
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